# Ragnarok Research: Monday.com's 70% Crash Prices In Near-Certain Extinction — the Bull Case Is That Agentic AI Needs an Orchestration Layer, and MNDY Already Is One > At ~2x EV/Sales versus a typical 4x SaaS multiple, the market implies roughly 90% probability of terminal decline — Ragnarok puts that at 30%, arguing switching costs are underappreciated and AI agents need exactly wh... - Canonical URL: https://www.shortreport.fyi/articles/mndy/ragnarok-research-monday-coms-70-crash-prices-in-near-certain-extinction-the-bull-case-is-that-agentic-ai-needs-an-orchestration-layer-and-mndy-already-is-one/ - Published: 2026-05-25T16:21:45.000Z - Updated: 2026-05-25T16:21:45.000Z - Authors: Ragnarok Research - Tickers: MNDY - Companies: monday.com Ltd. - Keywords: MNDY, monday.com Ltd., Ragnarok Research, AI, SaaS, Valuation The CNBC "vibe coded in 15 minutes" segment is the clearest example of the fear being mispriced: a Claude-built clone with no embedded users, workflows, or integrations does not threaten a platform whose stickiness comes precisely from those things. Migrating off Monday.com requires third-party tools like Movebot or developer work to transfer APIs – friction that compounds for large enterprises with complex embedded workflows. The IBM paper "The blueprint for agentic operations" argues enterprises deploying AI agents will need workflow managers and governance models; Monday.com already supports external agents including Manus and internally hosted agents, and has a digital twin concept in its product suite. The company is also shifting from pure subscription to hybrid subscription-plus-consumption pricing, with AI agentic usage billed separately – the CEO has publicly called vanilla SaaS pricing dead. Guggenheim projects 19% and 17% revenue growth over the next two years, yet the stock trades as if the business won't survive. --- **Ticker:** MNDY (Monday.com Ltd.) **Research Firm:** Ragnarok Research **Report URL:** [https://researchragnarok.substack.com/p/mini-memo-why-i-am-considering-going?ref=shortreport.fyi](https://researchragnarok.substack.com/p/mini-memo-why-i-am-considering-going?ref=shortreport.fyi) **Position Disclosure:** The author discloses they are considering going long MNDY and may initiate a position. --- ## Thesis Ragnarok Research argues the market is wrong to price Monday.com as a business facing existential AI risk — and that agentic AI adoption may actually increase demand for workflow orchestration platforms like MNDY rather than destroy them. - **Valuation Implies Extinction:** MNDY trades at ~2x EV/Sales versus a typical SaaS multiple of ~4x. The author frames this as the market pricing in roughly a 90% probability of terminal decline — a figure the author puts closer to 30%. - **Switching Costs Underappreciated:** The report spoke to a small MNDY customer who said they have no plans to leave and that migrating would be "a huge hassle." Migrating off the platform can require third-party tools like Movebot or paid developer work to transfer APIs — a friction the author argues is even more severe for large enterprises with complex workflows. - **AI Needs an Orchestration Layer:** IBM's paper "The blueprint for agentic operations: How to build an interconnected enterprise" argues enterprises deploying agentic AI will need workflow managers and an interconnected governance model. The report positions MNDY as a natural fit for that role. - **Product Already AI-Compatible:** Monday.com's platform currently supports both external agents — including Manus — and internally hosted agents. The author argues the company is effectively positioning itself as an "AI Operating System for enterprises," and notes that a "digital twin" concept already exists within its product suite. - **Pricing Model Shifts to Capture AI Revenue:** MNDY is transitioning from pure subscription to a hybrid subscription-plus-consumption model, where standard usage stays bundled and AI agent usage costs extra. The company's CEO has publicly stated that "vanilla SaaS pricing models are dead." - **The Demo Doesn't Displace the Incumbent:** A CNBC segment in which hosts "vibe coded" a Monday.com clone in 15 minutes using Claude is cited as a driver of investor fear. The report argues the demo is not evidence of displacement — an app with no embedded users does not threaten one that does. - **Existing Customers Are the AI Upsell:** _(Circumstantial)_ Given asserted switching costs and the new pricing structure, the report reasons that current customers are more likely to adopt MNDY's AI offerings than defect — turning AI into an incremental revenue stream rather than an existential threat. This rests on the unverified stickiness claim and on enterprise AI adoption playing out as the author expects. --- ## Notable Details - The author's probability framing is stark: the market is acting as if MNDY has roughly a 90% chance of terminal decline; the author puts that figure at 30%. That gap — not a growth debate, but a survival debate — is the core of the trade. - Migrating off Monday.com can require platforms like Movebot or developers to securely transfer APIs, making what looks like a simple software switch into a meaningful operational project. - HubSpot CTO Dharmesh Shah — whom the author acknowledges "might be a little biased" — bought approximately $1.8 million in HubSpot shares while publicly commenting on the need for enterprise orchestration layers in an AI world. The report treats his capital allocation as indirect validation of the thesis. - Monday.com's CEO, in a podcast cited via Medium, described vanilla SaaS pricing as dead — aligning the company's own public posture with the hybrid consumption model the bull case depends on. - The CNBC "vibe coded in 15 minutes" segment is presented not just as technically misleading but as a discrete sentiment event that measurably worsened MNDY's valuation. --- > "I could make a react.js clone of facebook but that doesn't mean my application will displace facebook: Merely because facebook already has embedded users." > > — Ragnarok Research, rebutting the CNBC "vibe coded" Monday.com clone segment --- ## FAQs #### What is the "vibe coded in 15 minutes" CNBC clip about? CNBC aired a segment in which the hosts built a Monday.com-like application using the AI model Claude in approximately 15 minutes. The report presents this as a flashy demo that contributed to investor fear about SaaS disruption, while arguing the demo is meaningless as a displacement threat — a clone built from scratch has no embedded users, workflows, or integrations, which are precisely what makes Monday.com sticky for its existing customers. #### Does Monday.com have high switching costs? The report argues it does. The author spoke to one small Monday.com customer who said they have no plans to leave and that switching would be "a huge hassle." Migrating off the platform can require third-party tools like Movebot or developers to transfer APIs securely. The report reasons this friction is even greater for large enterprises with deeply embedded, complex workflows. #### How could agentic AI help Monday.com instead of hurting it? Ragnarok Research argues that as enterprises deploy AI agents to handle tasks, they will need a coordination or orchestration layer to manage those agents alongside human workers. IBM's paper "The blueprint for agentic operations: How to build an interconnected enterprise" is cited as supporting this view. The report argues Monday.com — which already supports external agents like Manus and internally hosted agents — is a natural candidate for that orchestration role. #### What is Monday.com's new pricing model? The company is shifting from a pure subscription model to a hybrid subscription-plus-consumption structure. Under the new approach, standard product usage remains under the monthly subscription, while AI agentic usage will cost extra. The report cites Monday.com's CEO publicly stating that "vanilla SaaS pricing models are dead" as confirmation the company is committed to this transition. #### Is Monday.com already an AI platform? Per the report, Monday.com already supports external AI agents — including Manus — as well as agents hosted directly on its platform, and has a "digital twin" concept within its product suite. The author argues this positions Monday.com not just as a workflow tool that survives AI, but as a potential "AI Operating System for enterprises" that could benefit from wider agentic adoption. #### What are the key risks or uncertainties the report acknowledges? The report's bullish case on switching costs rests primarily on a single conversation with one small customer — a limited sample. The claim that existing customers will add AI offerings rather than defect is circumstantial and depends on enterprise AI adoption unfolding as the author expects. The author also notes that HubSpot and Asana could potentially benefit from orchestration-layer demand as much as Monday.com, and flags the question of which company captures that upside as unresolved. --- _**Disclaimer:** This summary is not primary research and does not constitute investment advice. 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